Those were two of the questions which were posed by Lucy Moore during Messy Church training on Saturday.
The assembled throng laughed nervously and made jokes about growing up in a bungalow and how they had never asked their house if it had accepted Jesus as its Lord and Saviour before confronting the fact that this is a hard question.
I grew up in a house with two Christian parents. I went to church every week and Boys’ Brigade. But that didn’t make it a ‘Christian home’. Did it? We prayed each night before bed. Did that make it a Christian home? My dad became a minister. Did that make it a Christian home?
The question and answers led to an interesting discussion asking:
‘How do we model faith at home?’
So, I’m asking you:
Did you grow up in a Christian home?
How do you know?
And as an extra bonus question:
Would your kids (or future kids) give the same answer as you?
St Silas Church, Glasgow, 69 Park Road, Woodlands, Glasgow G4 9JE
The event is a must for anyone interested in building a Christ-centered community where parents, carers and children can share their creativity, eat a meal and worship together outside of Sunday worship. It’s ideal for Worship Leaders, Local Preachers, Ministers, Deacons, Sunday School teachers – the sky is the limit! There will be time to learn from Lucy Moore, to try out activities and make plans for the future.
Book soon. Places are limited and this even sold quickly out last time.
St Silas Church, Glasgow, 69 Park Road, Woodlands, Glasgow G4 9JE
The event is a must for anyone interested in building a Christ-centered community where parents, carers and children can share their creativity, eat a meal and worship together outside of Sunday worship. It’s ideal for Worship Leaders, Local Preachers, Ministers, Deacons, Sunday School teachers – the sky is the limit! There will be time to learn from Lucy Moore, to try out activities and make plans for the future.
Book soon. Places are limited and this even sold quickly out last time.
One of my favourite books is called Dangerous Wonder by Mike Yaconelli. The tag line of the book is ‘the adventure of childlike faith’. In it Mike argues that following Jesus should be an adventure. That Jesus is dangerous and wonderful and that Christians should be known for the fire in their souls, the wild-eyed gratitude in our faces, the twinkle in our eye and the holy mischief in our demeanour.
There are quotes, poems and stories at the beginning of each chapter. They set the scene and give a flavour of what’s coming.
There are two at the beginning of chapter 4, ‘daring playfulness’. The first is this quote from a Rabbi’s sermon:
‘Life is tough. It takes up much of your time, all of your weekends and what do you get at the end of it? I think the lifecycle is all backward. You should die first, get that out of the way. Then you should live twenty years in an old age home. You get kicked out when you’re too young. You get a gold watch, you go to work. You work for forty years until you’re young enough to enjoy your retirement. You go to college, you party until you’re ready for high school. You go to primary school, you become a little kid, you play, you have no responsibilities. You become a little baby, you go back into the womb. You spend your last nine months floating in the womb and end up as a glint in someone’s eye.’
I love that sentiment. It makes me smile.
But perhaps the second short quote is one we should really pay attention to this week.
“I was never young because I never dared to be young.”
Is that where we are in our faith and in our church? Are we scared to be young? Are we trying to be great without knowing what greatness is?
What would it mean to be a childlike church? Not just child-friendly, but childlike. How can we become a place of imagination and daring and wonder and playfulness?
When Jesus points towards the least he picks a child. He doesn’t pick someone who is rubbish at everything and he doesn’t pick the poorest and he doesn’t make fun or embarrass anyone. He picks a child. A child who needs looked after and nurtured and encouraged and played with… and loved. Maybe that’s a clue about what church should be like…
First up was the ‘Growing Up in Scotland‘ report. I was on the group which wrote the report so I was glad to see some good deliverences (motions) coming from the report. I’ll pick out the highlights for me…
Child Friendly Churches
3. Instruct the Church and Society Council to work with other Councils to introduce a Child Friendly Church initiative based on the United Reform Church’s model.
This was amended to welcome the work the Mission and Discipleship council has already done on preparing a Child Friendly Church initiative, based on the United Reformed Church model.
Hearing Children
4. Urge Scottish and UK Governments to evidence as a matter of course how young people’s voices are heard in the development of legislation and policy.
5. Instruct the Church and Society Council, together with Presbyteries and other Councils of the Church, to bring to the General Assembly of 2010 a report on the ways in which each is enabling the voices of young people to be heard in their decision-making processes.
Great to see an emphasis on listening to children in decision making. I wonder how congregations and the Assembly will make that happen?
8. Instruct the Church and Society Council to work with representatives of the National Youth Assembly to develop awareness of models of support in congregations on the issues involved in mental illness among young people.
This issue is one that has become ever more important to me. My wife is a soon to qualify mental health nurse and her training has confirmed my belief that the church can and should play a role in supporting people with mental ill-health. Like the other deliverence, the question will be how?
10. Urge Scottish and UK Governments to strengthen their commitment to end child poverty by 2020 and ensure that policies and adequate resources are in place to achieve that aim.
11. Urge the Scottish Government to ensure that resources, including partnerships with Churches and others, are in place to deliver the ambitions of the Early Years Framework.
12. Demand that HM Government uphold, respect and protect the rights of children who are asylum seekers or who are trafficked into our country.
For me these show that the church is where it should be, campaigning on behalf of the poor and those who’s rights are overlooked.
Engaging with Technology, Science and the Environment
Climate Change
16. Instruct Presbyteries, in association with the Church and Society Council, to produce a plan for each congregation in their bounds, setting out how they will measure energy consumption in their church
buildings, ascertain their carbon footprint and achieve a year-on-year reduction of 5% of their carbon
footprint using the Eco-Congregation Scotland carbon footprint module; and instruct the Church and Society Council, in consultation with the General Trustees, to report to the General Assembly of 2010 on the implementation of this instruction.
17. Welcome the proposed incorporation of Eco-Congregation Scotland as a Charitable Company and continue to support the work of eco-congregations.
18. Affirm the current commitment of the Church and Society Council to the ‘Responding to Climate Change Project’ and instruct the Church and Society Council, in partnership with other Councils, to complete the review of this project with a view to its development.
The climate change debate threw up some interesting discussion around how ambitious the church should be about targets, with 5% perhaps not being nearly enough of a reduction.
This raised the question again about the suitability of buildings for me. Is the reduction of carbon footprints the catalyst needed to get rid of unsuitable buildings once and for all? Can the church really claim to be good stewards while pouring money into drafty and expensive to heat buildings? And the church’s central offices in Edinburgh won’t escape the carbon audit…
Do you ever get those days where you just don’t know where to begin? I’m having one of those days. I’m sitting with a blank piece of paper and a pen. Well a number of pens actually. Coloured sharpies. But that’s not important.
What is important is the topic I’m trying to think of some ideas for. What would make Children’s or Youth work better in the United Reformed Church here in Scotland?
You would think that after 15 years of doing this kind of job that wouldn’t be a question I would still be asking.. But I am. I like to think that shows that I’m still learning, still open to new ideas and possibilities. But today it means I’m stuck.
I have an empty page and it would seem my head is just as empty.
So maybe you can help? What would make a difference in your church? What could someone come and help you with or provide to make your work with children and young people better?
We welcomed Lucy Moore to Saughtonhall Church in Edinburgh today to lead a Messy Fiesta, or Messy Church training day.
Gettin Messy
Messy Church grew from the problem lots of churches face… how to engage children AND their parents.
So, they gather children and their grown ups after school on a Thursday to play, make, cut, stick, glue, colour, play and create TOGETHER. Then a short worship session and then a meal around tables TOGETHER.
Barnardo’s released a report called Break The Cycle today. The research conducted by YouGov shows that:
just under half (49%) of people believe that children are increasingly a danger to each other and adults
43% agree something has to be done to protect us from children
45% think that children are feral in the way they behave.
A survey conducted amongst Barnardo’s young people – just over half of whom have been in trouble – found that most of them thought that young people get into trouble because of boredom and peer pressure.
Of the 393 youngsters, aged between 10 and 23:
44% said bad behaviour is encouraged when the media portrays their peers as misbehaving
84% said young people get into trouble because of boredom
88% said having more things to do and places to go might stop young people getting into trouble
32% would go to friends for help if they were in trouble
This report reminded me of a couple of things.
The first is that very wise saying ‘It takes a village to raise a child’. Children are not aliens. They don’t materialise on the streets from outer space. They are ours. Our children, grandchildren, cousins, newphews and nieces and friends.
The Scottish Children’s Commissioner found last year that 64% of adults would like to volunteer to work with children and young people but only 5% actually do.
The blame, if there is any blame to be had, is squarely with us, adults. We ignore our children. We leave them to do what they please because it suits us. We don’t get involved with them. We don’t provide clubs, organisations, sports, art, music or education because we can’t be bothered. We’d rather watch tv and complain.
It takes a village to raise a child means that the whole of society is responsible. We all need to take an interest, provide opportunities, volunteer. Not someone else, you. We’re happy to drop our kids off at clubs and organisations and Sunday School but how many of us offer to help out?
BBC 4 has just shown an excellent exploration and discussion of childhood as part of the Child of Our Time series which is following a cohort of children from birth until age 20. Tonight’s discussion topics ranged from ‘play’ and ‘risk’ to ‘communication’ between adults and children and between children and ‘how time is spent’ and ‘consumerism’. Well worth watching when it appears on the BBC iPlayer if you’re in the UK.
UPDATE: It didn’t appear on iPlayer. Very disappointing!
Today I was at Greyfriars Church in Lanark making the final settings on their new sound desk as they put it all to use during today’s worship. I was also helping a young man called Ben to find his way around the new sound desk and laptop. He’ll be running the show from next week.
The service was great. It was Sunday School prize-giving, dedication of a beautiful new pulpit fall and communion. For the first time the children took their rightful place in that sacrament. What a difference it makes when the whole family of the church are together. The liturgy had two young girls asking questions of the minister. Why do we do this? What is it we are doing? Why bread and wine? The service had a simplicity which made it accessible but also deep and poignant.
I am Stewart Cutler, a Youth and Children's Work Trainer with over 15 years of experience working with volunteers, students and professionals in the Christian Church and in communities around Scotland.
In my breaks from Mario Kart and Guitar Hero I am a jesus following, coffee drinking, music listening, blogging, tweeting, talking, teaching, listening, leading, podcasting, creating, reflecting, motherwell supporting youth worker currently avoiding a Masters dissertation.
Welcome to my blog and website where I've been sharing thoughts about God, the church, youth ministry and life since 2006.
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