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The new episode of the Something Beautiful Podcast features an interview with Lawrence Moore, director of the URC’s Windermere Centre and author of Disclosing New Worlds, a fabulous lectionary blog. It’s his story of his journey from Zimbabwe where he served as a police officer in special branch through the civil war to a realisation of what he’d been involved in and a changed life and understanding of who God is. Well worth a listen!
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I was invited to lead a workshop at Holy City in Glasgow last night. I mentioned before that I was delighted to be asked but now terrified…
Well, it wasn’t that scary! In fact, I liked it a lot.
I’ve known about Holy City for ages and it’s been on my ‘I’d quite like to go to that’ list but I’ve never got round to going. I’m so glad I did, even if it took an invite to get me there (perhaps a lesson in that?).
People gather from 7pm for a chat and around 7.20pm new songs are taught for the worship later in the evening and the workshops are plugged. Then at 7.30pm people choose their workshop and go there for an hour.
There was a great variety of workshops last night, all around the idea of ‘telling’.
Mine was called ‘Telling Signs?’ and I tried to encourage people to talk about what signs of new life they were seeing outside the church and to ask what the church’s response to those should be. I think it was a good discussion but in many ways the ‘Emerging Church’ is so nebulous that it’s difficult for people to grasp which part we are talking about… or to want to categorise these communities at all.
Worship was the most subversive act I’ve seen in a church for a long time. We thought about telling… and those who because of a decission by the General Assembly are not allowed to tell and the issue they are not allowed to tell of… sexuality.
Deep words, beautiful music, conversation and actions in an amazing space with great people.
I’ll be back… next term. And if you find yourself in Glasgow on the last Sunday of the month then you could do much worse than spend some time at Holy City.
Tags: holy city, worship
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Dear PROJECTiles, [release 1 distrib 280509]
Details are slowly leaking out for thePROJECT – In The Flesh which will happen somewhere in Edinburgh on June 20th.
You’ve been most patient, and that’s both much appreciated and deserves rewarding. So here’s the first of several updates on P:2 for yer info and delektashin.
Confirmed to date….A veritable cornocupia of wonders, including:
Musicality… IAIN ARCHER, WE SEE LIGHTS, JAKE TATTON.
Wordsmithery… ROB McKENZIE
Workshops… DOUG GAY, BEKI BATESON, STEWART CUTLER, ROSS LOVERIDGE… on art, faith, culture, emerging church, climate change challenges.
Creativity: Gentle City Walks, Videovoxpop, Scratch Mary Poppins, mibbe even a Big Knit
Worship: with Steve Butler & friends.
This is just for starters… so watch this space for more details… (and check yer emails!). Registration and ticketing details imminently.
the PROJECT (Scotland)
… a Scottish festival of arts, culture & faith
Questionnaire: thePROJECTquestionnaire
Web: theprojectscotland
Facebook: www.facebook.com/group
Bebo: www.bebo.com/theprojectscotland
Twitter: http://twitter.com/theprojectscot
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I’ve been invited to lead one of the workshops at Holy City in Glasgow this Sunday evening. The stop this month in the journey to discover the demands, delights and dilemmas of discipleship is ‘Speaker’s Corner’.
The blurb for my bit says…
‘Telling signs?’
‘Emerging Church’ is one (of many) tags given to odd, quirky, marginal forms of being church that exist in or outside of the mainstream? What and where are they? What do they mean? And do they matter? A man who has his finger on the pulse of such things is STEWART CUTLER. He is Children and Youth Development Officer for the URC in Scotland.
Like all these kinds of invitations I’m delighted to be asked then gripped by fear about what to do! I might talk about that. It seems kind of apt… After all, it is Pentecost.
Come and join us at 7pm in Renfield St Stephens, Bath Street, Glasgow.
Tags: Events, glasgow, holy city, prayer, worship
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Bishop Graham Cray’s excellent address on Fresh Expressions to the evening session of the Church of Scotland’s General Assembly is now available to watch on the Church of Scotland website. Well worth a look, listen, copious notes and lots of thought.
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As I sat at my desk yesterday afternoon another spectacle unfolded before my very eyes. The General Assembly of the Church of Scotland webstream was on my desk top and the Council of Mission And Discipleship were presenting their excellent report on Singleness, asking that it be disseminated for study.
What followed was simply remarkable. Speaker after speaker condemned the report and one went as far as to move that the report should be received but not sent out. Why? What could the controversy be? Well, the report says that some people have sex outside marriage. I know. I was shocked by this revelation. Who knew???
This is the body that only the day before had said that it wants to have an open and frank discussion about sexuality and was now chastising Peter MacDonald for having the nerve to a) admit to pre-marital sex with his wife of 26 years and b) be funnier than them.
There is a serious underlying issue at play in all of this though, and the proposal to supress this report is just a symptom of it. Over the course of the past week the Church of Scotland has, in my opinion, trampled all over the human rights of all of its office bearers.
The United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 19 states that
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
On Monday the General Assembly banned anyone subject to its courts (all ministers and office bearers) from making public statements about the ordination of gay ministers. (UPDATE: the final wording of the motion was: Instruct all Courts, Councils and Committees of the Church not to issue press statements or otherwise talk to the media or to make decisions in relation to the contentious matter of himan sexuality, with respect to the Ordination and Induction to the Ministry of the Church of Scotland, until 31 May 2001.)
Article 30 states that
Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.
So, congratulations to the Church of Scotland. You must be very proud. Contravening at least two articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in one day and that’s before we even get started on the employment rights of gay ministers which were curtailed by the moratorium on them moving charge for 2 years.
What on earth do you think you are doing?
Do you think that avoiding the debate, the fight, the argument, the falling out is the best way? At any cost?
Or is their another way? Is it not possible just to agree to disagree? To give congregations the right to call who they want to be their minister? If they want to call a minister who is gay, let them. If you don’t want that then don’t call a gay minister.
Would that be so hard? To agree to disagree? To be grown up about it? To recognise a genuine difference of opinion which will NEVER be resolved no matter how may Special Commissions and gagging orders you issue.
Tags: "civil liberties", ban, church of scotland, declaration of human rights, free speech, gagging, general assembly
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On Monday night, after the drama, confusion and intrigue of the Overture discussion that never happened something important happened… something which is at the heart of the future of the church.
It was late in the evening when Bishop Graham Cray spoke to a disappointingly small group of people as part of the Emerging Church fringe event.
Bishop Cray is the man in charge of Fresh Expressions, the joint project between the Church of England and the Methodist Church, and he has been working in the area of pioneering ministry for years.
His first sentence was a response to a video of a great youth project at the Steeple Church in Dundee. ‘That’s great’, he said, ‘but that’s not what I’m talking about.’
In that one sentence he summed up the concern I have with the direction of the ‘Emerging Church’ conversations and support available through the Church of Scotland.
Graham spoke of ministry across cultural boundaries, of growing churches where there are none and of a mixed economy of church. He shed light on the how and why, shared encouragement and pointed out some pitfalls.
All that requires legislation, changes in recognition and training of the ministry needed for these new expressions and funding.
I’ve heard little this week to convince me that the Church of Scotland has a corporate awareness of this area or a grasp of where it is heading, despite the good work of the development officer for this area.
The event was webcast. It would be great if Graham’s talk could be shared wider.
Tags: church of scotland, fresh expressions, general assembly, graham cray
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I thought I’d have a go at exploring what the General Assembly has been up to because lots of people seem to be completely confused by what has been going on. I know how you feel! Let’s start with the part that has had all the headlines:
Did the Church of Scotland Approve Gay Ministers?
Contrary to what you have probably seen on TV or read in the papers, on Saturday the General Assembly did not vote to ordain homosexual ministers. The case being heard on Saturday was a complaint that the Presbytery of Aberdeen. The complainers were saying that the Presbytery hadn’t followed the procedures properly when they were dealing with Scott Rennie’s call to be minister of Queen’s Cross Church.
Their complaint was denied. The General Assembly found that the Presbytery had followed procedure.
Mindful that the implication of this decision was by default to approve the induction of Scott to his new charge the Assembly inserted a disclaimer… that this decision did not overrule or change the code of ministerial conduct.
Yesterday (Monday) the General Assembly was scheduled to hear the Overture from the Presbytery of Lochcarron and Skye.
That didn’t happen because a motion was proposed by Dr McPake which was heard first. (I blogged about it yesterday)
The outcome of that discussion was to return the Church of Scotland to it’s pre-Assembly position. There was much discussion in Saturday’s debate that inducting Scott Rennie would set a precedent. The General Assembly was keen that this wouldn’t happen without a debate. That was partly the motivation for the Presbytery of Lochcarron and Skye bringing their Overture which simply reaffirmed the historic orthodox position of the church.
The result of Monday’s deliberations was to:
- Set up another Special Commission to consult with Presbyteries and Kirk Sessions on the subject of human sexuality and report to the General Assembly of 2011
- impose a 2 year moratorium on inducting anyone who would bring a challenge to the potential outcome of that commission
- ban anyone subject to the courts of the church from making public statements about the ordination of gay ministers
Because of that return to the pre-Assembly position the Overture was withdrawn.
That might seem like a fudge and I know many who would have preferred the debate on homosexuality just happen and a decision be made but there seems still to be a greater desire to hold together the Church of Scotland.
Davslate on Twitter last night said: Prediction for GA2011 – Special Commission reports that there are a range of divergent and often irreconcilable views on sexuality.
There is a sense of inevitability about the discussion to come. There are quite simply two sides of this debate, neither likely to move. That said, there are probably more areas where those two side agree than disagree. I would think that all would agree that good relationships are important and that committed, faithful relationships are the ideal. That at least gives people a place of agreement to start at rather than starting at the point of most disagreement.
To me the ban on public comment makes no sense. I understand that people involved in case should not comment on it but to ban all comment on a topic which will be the subject of much debate and discussion in the media leaves a vacuum which will be filled by those less qualified or poorly informed.
I hope that makes a bit more sense of what has happened, and what is to come.
Tags: church of scotland, general assembly, homosexuality
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Last night’s decision by the General Assembly was only the first of two crucial discussions to be had this week. The Overture from the Presbytery of Lochcarron and Skye is still before the Assembly and has been moved from last night to Monday at 4pm due to the length of time the Assembly took to hear the case against Aberdeen Presbytery last night.
Today’s headlines proclaiming that the Kirk has welcomed a gay minister are potentially misleading. Last night the General Assembly upheld the Presbytery of Aberdeen but also added a caveat.
The following motion was agreed by the Assembly:
a) refuse the dissent and complaint of Aitken and others and sustain the decision of the Presbytery of Aberdeen on the basis that the Presbytery followed the vacancy procedure correctly in Act VIII 2003.
b) affirm for the avoidance of doubt that this decision does not alter the Church’s standards of ministerial conduct.
The complaint was that the Presbytery had not followed the vacancy procedure. The Assembly disagreed…
However, what the decision did not do was preempt the discussion of the overture which will decide who can and can’t be ordained. It remains to be seen how the Assembly will decide on the issue of homosexual ministers and elders.
“That this Church shall not accept for training, ordain, admit, re-admit, induct or introduce to any ministry of the Church anyone involved in a sexual relationship outside of faithful marriage between a man and a woman”
There are a number of notices of motion which will suggest alterations to this motion, including one to add ‘or civil partnership’ to the end. In many ways that would make sense of the decision last night, both to uphold the Presbytery of Aberdeen and also fulfil the second part of the motion reaffirming that the Church still has agreed ministerial standards. That gay ministers would be expected not to engage in sexual relationships outside a civil partnerships would seem to be the most appropriate addition to those standards, but the General Assembly doesn’t always agree to things which might seem obvious!
What was obvious was that the discussions last night were conducted in a spirit of gracious understanding and patience. I pray that the same spirit continues on Monday.
Tags: aberdeen presbytery, case, church of scotland, general assembly, homosexuality, lochcarron, overture, presbytery, Scott Rennie, skye
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